the hospital. it fao89d one of kate's nurses to revealing her condition. it caused outrage by the family and the hospital and on friday, it turned dim. news that the nurse involved on the prank phone call was dead, a suicide. we'll have more as this story develops. another bit of media mischief and darkened to what was supposed to be a joke. that is wra >> punishment is a fundamental concept in the law. there is disagreement about the purpose. detour re deterre deterrent, rehabilitation. incompass tation it locks them up. retribution where we get an eye for an eye. there is disagreement about the purpose all agree in order to be

effective punishment numust be swift and must be certain. hello and welcome to "justice." i am june jeanine pirro. >> this week hillary clinton refused to face congress on benghazi. owe babama threatens syria not cross his red line. as for hillary. more than three months after the brutal murders of four americans hillary agrees to talk about the findings of the very reports that she herself commissioned on her very own department and what her very own department will do to remedy the security problem. why now? like a defendant in a crippmina case you wait until everyone else is focuslk -- has spoken. cia time line, a dod time line. sworn testimony from state department and military personnel. just about everything is already out. th what is to tell. is she going to tell us there

wasn't enough security or we should have done more? honestly we are all getting tired of the questions that we already know the answers to. what we want to know is why our consulate did not meet the minimum security standards. why our ambassador's pleas for help were ignored. is she and the president watch in real time as the drone spent american for backup. was she in the situation room. how about another one of those situation room pictures. why did no one send help and why when the body was sent back to andrew's air force base did she tell the father they were going to arrest the man who made the video. where did she even come up with the video. finally were the latest accountability review boards findings be filed along side the one from the 98 attack on the embassies for kenya and

tanzania. here we are three months later if we didn't respond that night to help americans what makes any one think we are going to punish the people who killed them? by the way the only one arrested from at that mess is some shmuck who violated his probation. which brings me to the issue of the punishment. the united states and the place on the world stage. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime and other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start see ago whole bunch of chemical weapons being utilized. >> in recent days that's what intelligence agencies fear will happen. the troops have mixed chemicals for a deadly nerve gas. will the president follow through on a threat? what to do mr. president? how about change the red line.

>> the president of the united states has made very clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> did we move the red line? why would any one be afraid of us? i forgot. >> president obama made this world safer. he restored american's respect around the world. >> we threatened the red line we conveniently moved and we claim we are respected around the world. really? all of the while the middle east chanting death to americans burning our flag while we give them money. here we are another week where we don't react to the murder of four americans where we back off our threats all the while continuing to give countries who don't respect us our money.

it does nothing to reaffirm to terrorists but to reaffirm to them that we are not strong. that we don't mean what we say and we don't say what we mean. to go to the beginning punishment irrespective of purpose must be swift and must be certain. the only thing certain right now is that we don't mean what we say and we don't say what we mean. with me is a member of the foreign affairs committee who will hear hillary clinton's testimony congressman david rivera from miami. good evening congressman. >> good evening. thanks for having me. >> good to have you with us this evening. you are on the committee the house foreign affairs committee that hillary clinton has agreed to testify in front of. i understand before she testifies hillary wants that report to come out on her department the report she

herself commissioned. is that correct? >> that's correct. >> if the report comes out she knows what it's going to say. she is going to tell you what the report says is that correct? >> i think she is going to try to do that. i think she is going to try to answer the questions with the details to the report. they need to know if they are involved in putting the report together. a lot of problems we are seeing in terms of the response of this administration knotted from the state department but the white house the national security council director advisor donley. i think most people know just as during the roman empire all roads led to rome when it comes to national security and foreign policy in this nation all roads lead to the national security council. i think it's interesting that we have seen such silence from the national security advisor tom done lynn when we know as chairman of the homeland security committee and the house

peter king said we had a national breakdown. hillary clinton and folks that were supposed to be involved in that process may have been left out and that is why we saw susan rice put out. >> we know that thomas hicker ry was the man who ran the accountability review board. my question to you is whether or not you will ask hillary clinton the question as to whether or not she was in the white house did she watch this in real time can you answer the questions we haven't heard answers to as opposed to questions we already know the answers to such as there wasn't enough security. she needs to ask the questions. just as importantly she needs to ask she was in the white house but who was in the white house dealing with this issue. so far it seems the only person they have put out there to speak about this has been susan rice. hillary clinton needs to ask tough questions about what her role was. if she didn't have a role in

this who did you need to look at who dropped the ball. diplomatic security falls under the purview of the state department. it falls under hillary clinton's purview. we note hillary clinton reports to the white house. when you are taking about the white house you are speaking about the national security advisor and white house. we have silence from someone like tom donnellon another does hillary clinton she is likely to appear ton talk shows when it is convenience to do so. >> will you subpoena tom done lynn? >> as you know the white house and president obama will likely choose executive privilege when it comes to national security advisor. tom donnelly is the one person who has the answer the breakdown here was national security

council where information was changed and distorted and contaminated by the white house. we need to get to the bottom of this whether from hillary clinton tom donnelly or president obama. >> how about james clapper will you be calling him to testify? >> absolutely. the only person they are going to seek out right now is secretary clinton. >> as well as the state department. finally the only thing i would ask is there was already an accountability review board report from the kenyans tanzania knee yaw. i think the big question is why weren't those followed.

from miami from florida. sorry about that. >> the most important thing is we get the information out there so it never ever occurs again. >> of course coming up an arrest made in conjunction with the benghazi attack. the primary suspect walked the streets of benghazi a free man. >> later the threat of attacks hangs over assyria. will assad really gas his own

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>> this is a fox news alert. josh sprint faces a manslaughter charge after a one-car accident that killed fellow cowboy jerry brown. he failed a field sobriety test and was taken to a local hospital for a mandatory blood alcohol test. >> when our officers got there they made contact with mr. brent who was responsive to our officers. he was standing outside of the vehicle. he was determined to be the driver of that vehicle. our officers also located a larry brown junior who was lisling on the ground and he was unresponsive. he was transported to an area hospital where he was later

pronounced at the scene. >> he was released by the dallas cowboys team owner jerry jones said we are deeply saddened by the accident and the passing of jerry brown. our hearts and prayers and deepest sympathies are with the members of his family and all of him and loved him. it has been almost three months since murders in benghazi. they sit biaz a prime suspect continues to walk free and mock the united states good evening, gentlemen. >> good evening. >> talk with me. i will start with you eric. there is talk with two guys cat tal law as well as this other guy who is akhmad. catala is walking around in

libya mocking the united states. what is going on how is it he is a suspect and hasn't been picked up? >> ansaral shea was likely behind the attack. he is doing media interviews where he is in cafes in benghazi drinking a frappuccino talking to reporters saying hey no one has picked me up no one has questioned not only me but any one from my organization. they picked up a guy named abu akhmad in egypt also involved in the libya attack. they absolutely carried out the bulk of the attack. as you said this guy is a free man walking around in libya. you think at the least we could apply some pressure to the libyan government which we help make this new government happen.

they pick them up and question them. >> what we have been showing up full screen r is abu akhmad the guy picked up in egypt. the egyptians leased this guy during spring last year in march 2011. the revolt thousands of protestors froesing the government. they are picking up this guy we want he may be connected to the attack on benghazi. who is this is it for real? >> it isn't for real. they are buying time for what they want to do. they were part of radicals last year. they are coming regarding spring. since then we have seen a complete increase shirea all of these individuals have taken not

only akty measures against the united states but planning. let me contrast the situation. 12 years ago with the attacks notab notably. he was in yemen. they have the attack on u.s.s. cole in october of 2000 with 100 fbi agents working on the ground hard. syria is a country we helped liberate. we can't do the same now are you kidding me? 12 years later. i think it's all about no political will to do the right thing here. >> it was a message to the rest of the world that we are not really serious about what we are doing, but let's go backer rick to this guy who is in libya. this guy cat tal law who is

connected toal sh al shirea and will not say openly whether he was involved in the attack on the embassy pretty much has shown his disdain over the united states. have we spoken to him? >> to the best of our knowledge no one has spoken to him in the u.s. he was at the consulate during this september 11th attack. he was helping to remove people who were trapped inside the consulate. that's his version of the story. the obama administration tony said it is fundamentally serious about the benghazi operation. they wanted benghazi to go away. they want to empty out and pivot to asia. >> i want to ask you about whether or not the united states has had an opportunity to question this guy abu akhmad the

guy in egypt. >> my understanding is they have notified us he has been rolled up. but now we have to go through an entire separate process to gain access. there's no guarantee we will question directly. this may be us giving dicks hoping we ask them so we don't know. this is as far as i am concerned the debate is baiting us to make progress with no guarantee anything will be done. >> here we go again. we have these guys who were targets. we haven't spoken to either one of them while they continue to get our money. shame on us. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you, judge. >> how close is assad to slaughtering his own people with chemical weapons. we will talk about that next. >> lart the gruesome details of what a chemical weapon can do to people?

>> it is time for the united states and our allies to make it clear to assad that this is an unacceptable act. it is also time for us to be ready for any ven tality including will moption of mill tear rye intervention. >> the possibility of releasing chemical weapons by bashar assad. with me is author of they must be stopped bridge get gabriel and fox news analyst and author of the coming revolution dr. walid fair ro farrod.

the question everybody is asking is whether or not you think that as sat assad will use chemical weapons against his own people? >> he already said if he goes down he will take the middle east down with him. >> what is that point. he took 40,000 people. what will make him think he is at the end of his reign? >> this afternoon in the hands of the rebel which is the largest chemical for the syrian military. he may be prepared to use it against his own people as a defense before he goes down. >> do you think assad will use chemical wep cons against his own people? >> he is going to try for the to use it as much as he can because the international reaction is going to be very tough. he will consult or try to

consult. he is going to try to consult with the russians. as bridget has said if it comes to his own safety it's the rebels jihad or none jihad. he know what happened to khaddafy. he may use it in a similar way. if he can exit from damascus and free to the northwest side he can defend himself and he is attacked then most likely he will use it to defend his own community. >> what is it with the russians. why are they siding with assad with this? >> the russians are siding with assad. they are trying to create the friendship. they are still trying to create a balance against the united states. it's like who is siding with who at this point. they have a vested interest in the middle east. that's why they are working with him and also let's remember the iranians and russians are working together. they have a relationship.

they want to assist us because assad is working with the iranians he is an ally of the iranians and he is defending that philosophy. >> walid if assad gets to the point where he either takes asylum or let's assume he uses the chemical weapons what will happen then. >> first of all depending on the scenario he may use that weapon if he is pushed to as we jewsed ea -- discussed earlier. if he is in damascus and they come to get him he may use it so he can exit and go to the western part of assyria. there's another scenario that may be of great concern. if he and the iranians are coordinating aattack in our interest as a region in a whole to stop the national intervention in syria this is where it becomes very dangerous for us, israel, turkey and

syrians themselves. >> what is the arab world doing about syria in you have this guy who is a monster killing children in front of their parents. 40,000 people. why isn't the arab world doing something? >> when you look at the arabic world when you look at countries you are looking at flags basically. when you look at the arabic world every country is identified by one person or one man regime. what are they going to do. they are the rulers ruling the majority. when you look at all of the arab countries they can identify with assad. this is how they are reeling they are not democratic nations. that's why they are sitting on the side lines. however today this afternoon the middle east is around syria because of what happened this afternoon with the falling of the chemical weapons in the rebel's hands. israel is on alert the surrounding countries are on alert. >> certainly a very dangerous swigs. bridget walid thank you for being with us. >> what is sarin gas?

the details of what the chemical can do to you is terrifying. if he uses the gas does america get involved? should america get involved?

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police in dallas suburb of irving tell us he had been drinking when flipping his car over. his passenger was killed. a u.s. citizen has been rescued in afghanistan from taliban kidnappers. officials saying he was snatched wednesday in eastern afghanistan. we're told he was rescued saturday after intelligence showed his life was in danger. and reports at this hour venezuelan president chavez announced his cancer has returned and he will undergo another operation. chavez plans to return to cuba on sunday for the surnlry. for all of your headlines log on to fox news.com. >> reports are that syrian president assad has taken steps to unleash a deadly nerve gas outlawed by the u.n. and classified as a weapon of mass destruction. but what is saran gas and what

happens when it is released? with me is emergency medicine specialist dr. stephan garner. thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> nice to see. >> you what is nerve gas. >> encompass incapacitates the nerves. your body stops moving. you start to fill up. gets to the lungs and the rest of your body. you die minutes. >> you can touch it, breathe it in. somebody is poison your glass. if you wants to do a weapons of mass destruction aerosolize it. you will kill whatever is inside. >> what are they talking about when they say that assad's people have already mixed it and my sources tell me that it's already on the bombs but the bombs haven't been put on the plane. so when they drop the bomb, it's an explosion and then the gas. >> it disperses anybody can

make it formula on the internet like three chemicals if you miss it together. have it spinning in the bomb or the plane or however they are going to deliver it. when it hits the ground it's going to spray out. iraq did this and killed 5,000 people with one shot. >> we heard about saran gas in japan on the subway although not that many people were killed. >> which is a key. you have to use pure products. the rogue people doing it probably don't have the best methods to make it. it doesn't have a long shelf levee line. 13 people out of a million died. showed you how ineffective it was. >> if you don't have the real deal. where do you get saran gas. i know you talk about you can find out how to make it on the internet to. get the serious stuff. >> you can buy the three. if you are rogue. serious like a state who is going to authorize terrorism. your scientist can produce that very similar to pesticide. is it is a type of pesticide the germans invented it for

that and made it stronger to kill people. >> breathe it in, touch something and contract it or it can be put in the water supply. >> the scary, there is antidote to this, it is a available in very short supply. >> it's interesting you would say that doctor. i was going to ask you if there is an antidote is it available. >> maybe when we had threats we had to get stockpiled from the federal government. we do not have enough on board. just a shortage worldwide. >> and finally if exposed, how do you know if you are edges posed to even assuming it were available. >> headaches and seizures and start to lose your sight and your heart gets very slow and start wheezing like asthmatic and lungs fill one fluid. if you are not treated within a couple minutes of that you are going to die. symptoms in a mass that tell you something is going on. >> doctor, finally, you know, would very a missile defense system. i know, we know something is going to happen. how do we know this is coming

at us? >> clear, odorless, you can't see it you wouldn't know unless you start the getting the symptoms. you have to find like 100 people with the same weird symptoms. >> all right, dr. garnerrer, thanks for being with us this evening. >> you are welcome. >> if syria actually uses chemical weapons does america have an obligation to become engaged? with me now former deputy assistant for national security affairs stephan united yates and fox news analyst colonel david hunt. all right. let me go to stephan yates. where is stephan? stephan is right over here. >> hi, judge. >> hi. stephan, all right. let me ask you this, stephan. what we know so far is the possibility of this chemical weapon being used. how will we know if this is the kind of thing that is being used against our people? we just heard from dr. garnerrer. but is there a way for us militarily to know if it's coming at us? >> >> well, i think we would have to rely on intelligence. with this syria problem in particular we have known for a very linger time their

possession of these chemical weapons capabilities. and so really what we have is a profound problem of lost time. entry had a civil war ongoing for twoers i don't. the president has called for assad to go. we have known for a very long time that this challenge could be coming. with syria as a state sponsor of terrorism and massive proliferation risk we won't have that much warning when something like this comes. >> and to my good friend concerning hunt hunt. do we involved if assad does release chemical weapons against his people. >> i'm at a loss to understand what killing 30 to 40,000 with bullets and killing thousands with gas. syria has stepped on the line. i don't think we can afford another war in the middle east in 11 years. i don't think we have the interest. >> whether killed by a bullet or killed by a bomb or killed by a chemical, it's still 40,000 people have been murdered. we he haven't done anything. now there is starting to be this rumble that we need to get involved. people pushed in a corner buy

people that want us in syria and i think it's a mistake. we're going to help the syrian rebels like we did in libya. people in the ground unless we are going to get wmds or protect our allies on border. syria huge mistake. two wars in the middle east 11 years is enough. >> all right. stephan, what about the idea of these chemical weapons and the risk to other countries if they are used? so, for example, is there a plume or something that can go into turkey or into israel or somewhere in a neighboring country that then will force our hand? >> i don't have a perfect understanding of how this gas spreads. my impression is that it will not stay for an infinite period of time and float long distance. so they would have this disperse in a targeted area is what i understand the utility of this kind of a weapon. but, the risk of it being transported to other locations, regardless of where

it is initially used i think is a greater threat are you? are nodding your head, colonel you agree with him. >> because of the prevailing wind we have jordan is a big problem if they set this off take for example in damascus. that's why we have special forces in jordan. if we get a real handle and weapon nice syrian gas we probably went won't allow that to happen. >> what about turkey? is turkey a country that we can rely on. >> absolutely. very very good soldiers. they are concerned with the kurds as they were in iraq and as they were in syria. very good military but they need help that's why we are pushing missile defense into turkey on the border controlled by u.s. >> all right. and stephan, with respect to this whole idea of all of the countries that would be involved. if assad is taken out, who comes in? >> well, that's an enormous problem. there is -- what we have seen so far in the drama that we

seen in the air of spring. there is very little engagement prost conflict organized force i gave advantage tends to be political or militant wing of islamist movement. infiltration from al qaeda and other affiliates around the region that post assad that they wouldn't be the strngest organization standing. >> look what happened when mubarak was dethroned and then we have got morsi and the muslim brotherhood and now we have this constitution is that is bypassing any kind of judicial review. do we have any hope as to who the next leader might be? >> no. and without having an influence on who the next leader is we shouldn't get involved taking out the current one. that's a mistake we made in a lot of countries. this is going to be a bld bath when the sunnis leave. hezbollah in the middle and al qaeda. it's a blood of bath without us in the middle. good reason not to get

involved in this. >> not to mention the kurds, sunnies, aloe whites do you see syria if something like this hans? >> i agree very much with what the colonel has been saying. do i think this conflict is likely to go on for a long time even post assad if that day should come soon. we have grave risk of not taking seriously the spillover effect of this going on long and dangerous things going beyond syria's borders. >> harris: all right colonel david hunt and stephan yates thanks for being with us this evening. coming up the fiscal cliff they are all talking about the middle class. but is it just that? talk? and later he he was sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit. i talked to damian of the west memphis three on "the view" on thursday. with the spark miles card from capital one,

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this is a tax on our children and grandchildren. this is a tax on people who aren't even here to defend themselves. it is the most deplorable way to suggest that this government run going forward than i can imagine. >> judge jeanine: just four more weeks before we reach that fiscal cliff. what happens if we fall off. with me is a strategist former pollster for president clinton doug schoen and fox news contributor and former pollster for president carter pat caddell. guys thanks and ladies thanks for being with us this evening. i will start with the lady, do we go over the fiscal cliff? is it going to happen. >> you know, judge we may go over the fiscal cliff. i think we are going to end up coming to some sort of terms and kicking the can down the road. i think it's going to the same old same old. i have actually heard from a lot of my bundlers that they think they are in the oil industry that they think we should actually fall. this is going to be one way to go ahead and actually wake up everybody and get things

straight. >> who gets blamed. the republicans get blamed and that's the issue much the president knows who wins either way. if the president gets a deal he will get credit. if we gopher 00 fiscal cliff the republicans who are in complete disarray will be blamed. both parties in their own way are putting the country at risk, the risk of a recession because of politics. >> all right. and pat, the republicans will get more blame. we know that already. but ultimately the president of the economy goes may pay the price as he did last august. the problem i have is with what doug said the republicans are in such a disarray. make a case other than we don't want to attack rich people and they lost that in the election and have not been able to make the case that they should have made in the election this year which is on spending and the debt limit. >> go ahead. >> this is bad for the g.o.p. no matter what. and i hate to say this. but, you know, we are either not going appeal to our very

conservative base or we're going to tick off people that think that we're not being hard enough. so, this is going to end up. this is going to play badly for the g.o.p. either way. obama set this up. kind of like a dog and pony show to where it's almost like this is just aimed at the republican party. >> judge jeanine: doug, is this just about spending? is it about the taxes? is it about the debt ceiling? make no mistake. do we all agree that, you know, the elimination of congressional approval and the elimination of the debt ceiling, i mean, that would be pretty much fiscal death for all of us. >> i think it would be a mistake. i think it's about something larger which is leadership, a vision of who we are as a people. and can we have the kind of bipartisan cooperation we used to get, judge, that now is absent? it's not politics. it's recklessness as you suggest with some of the things that are requesting -- going on. ultimately i believe they could get a deal and lead us forward and both sides for their own reasons aren't.

>> that would require the president who wants to humiliate and smash the republicans. >> judge jeanine: he already did. he won. >> precisely correct. >> no, no. but that's what you would think, no. his answer is the politics. let moo he a address the point you just made. republicans refuse and they are army and retreat they don't know how to turn around. >> only a circular firing squad. >> shoot their own wounded. but you know, this issue of a debt that you said, i wrote a piece this week,. >> i read it. >> saying my god obama overreached. you should be out there fighting for this. mcconnell gets up finally and says that then boat and then he deserts it. the whole purpose was to make it an issue. it's never going to pass the house. put the democrats on record. the republicans can't even agree among themselves to fight back for anything they believe in except leaving one impression that obama talking to the pluck.

they are talking to each other and screaming about taxes. they should be talking about going over the cliff and the deficit and the debt with the president who shows no inclination, by the bay to cut anything. >> and we have also made this about grover norquist. if i hear about him one more time. this is absolutely ridiculous. >> peter king's wife better not meet grover norquist because we know what she is going to do. doug, it seems that both sides are kind of, you know, saying well, i will blame the other side, i will blame the other side. the republicans can't each get together to say we'll blame the other side. they just think we are going to figure this thing out. >> here is the real problem. neither side is doing what was done in the mid 90's when president clinton and newt gingrich got together which is putting politics second, the country first and bargaining. all this kabuki play of a pluck relations fight is frankly insulting to the american people and destructive. >> you know why? i mean, this was a billion-dollar race. there is money on the line and now it's become so political that i don't even think we can. >> the point is we have lost that sense of people who put

the country before politics. and that didn't start after this election. this has been going on for three years j. >> judge jeanine: all right. stay with us, panel. if will is a panel and fiscal cliff fall off of it, how much is it going to hurt? later, he was sentenced to death three times. i talked to him this week on "the view." damion he canles of the west memphis three next.

>> it's very important that we get this done now that we don't wait. we are in the midst of the christmas season. the american people are counting on this getting solved. the closer it gets to the brink, the more stress they are going to be.

>> >> judge jeanine: that was president obama during his visit with a middle class family this week. so does the middle class have reason to stress? back with our stellar panel. all right, guys. you know, one thing about barack obama, he is an excellent speaker. he did this whole thing about the life of julia. remember that one? and it seems like the campaign never ends. when he talks he caulks about christmas and families and stress. i want to call up assad here of john boehner and i want you to compare the two in terms of their language. >> we have a debt problem that is out of control. i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. the revenues on the table are going to come from gets who? the rich? there are ways to limit deductions and close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy.

>> can i tell you something? that was so boring and so complicated and it didn't speak to me. what spoke to me was christmas, american families and stress. yes? >> that's what obama does. he speaks -- this is the point talking to the country. is he using all of those -- him meeting with the middle class family is kind of absurd. boehner is boring the hell out of everybody and talking about stuff that no one, except in washington and some people want to hear. >> i don't think he even understands what he said, doug. >> it would be pretty easy if he said you know we have got to get together for the god of the sun tri. we can solve these problems together for economic growth. i would love to sit with the president new in the spirit of the holidays and solve the problem. if he did that, then he could reach you, reach me, reach us all. >> we all have a stake in this. >> everybody is talking about taxing the rich. does anybody care about taxing the rich? no. nobody is talking about the spending the do you police sit programs we have in this

country. why aren't people talking about cutting back on spending. >> we are not even talking about giving aid to egypt and pakistan. we are not even talking about cutting anything on that at all. >> there is bigger issue. we need jobs. economic growth and revitalization of the american spirit. when you watch this and see america being degraded and devalued you have to be sad. >> that's the point, doug and i agree entirely with that point which is what people want to hear and talk about. that's what the republicans have talked about the election which they didn't and that's what they should be talking about now. someone should. the country is waiting. you are waiting. >> bottom line we elected president obama because is he nothing more than a brand. just like giewchy, bmw, whatnot. he is just a brand. >> at the end of the day, recession? >> yeah. yeah. >> recession? >> pretty likely. if we go off the cliff, you better believe it because small business people and others are already cutting back and they are going to read this as a panic sign. >> right.

they are not going to hire. >> no. >> no question. all right migrate panel pat caddell, doug schoen. >> thank you, judge. >> on thursday, hit pleasure of co-hosting "the view." damian he can coals convicted in 1994 of the brutal murder of 38-year-old cub scouts. weighs sentenced to death three times. in 2011, he was released after new d.n.a. evidence came to light. take a look at this. >> the thing you see with me looking out the back of the cop car smiling i'm trying to reassure my family i'm okay. they are standing in the back. you don't see that all you see is that little -- >> what's so incredible in a death penalty case there was no d.n.a. of the three of you connecting you to anything at the crime scene. and interestingly enough, the d.n.a. of one of the stepfathers in the actual ligature and you have a confession of someone who won't testify against you and you are convicted not just of murder but you are sentenced it to death. death penalty cases should be super due process. what did you think when you

were convicted and sentenced to death? there was no evidence. >> you can't really think. when you are standing there in the courtroom the only thing can i compare it to is if you have ever been beaten. when you get punched in the head like a bright flash of light and loud noises and really disoriented it doesn't register as pain at first. they sentenced me to death three times. whenever you hear them doing that it's like being beat in the head repeatedly. >> absolutely amazing. and the reason he is wearing sunglasses, he was in solitary confinement for 10 years and his eyes can't take the light. that's it for us tonight. thanks for joining us. but before we go, be sure to check me out on facebook and be my friend on twitter. take a look at my book sly fox that's a great book for those that you love for christmas. last week i said put it in your stronging. i went downstairs out of the christmas box and i put it in my stocking but it doesn't fit in the stocking. so i got another stocking. it doesn't fit in the stocking. if you have a stocking that it